Ortopedia Pediátrica. Traumatología y Reemplazos articulares
Traumatología y Reemplazos Articulares
Ortopedia Pediatrica
lunes, 26 de mayo de 2014
Discusión entre pares / operate or conserve
Indian-Orthopaedic Research-Group
Neeraj Choudhary
23 de mayo a la(s) 3:58
should i operate or conserve
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Pavneesh Lohan
Operate
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:07
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Somnath Chowdhury
IM IL nail + Fibular osteotomy (must***)
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:10
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Vishal B Peshattiwar
Fibula is intact. If you conserv it will go in non union.
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:10
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Praganesh KV
go for fixation with I/L nail and back hammering to get compression.... single bone high chances of non union with conservative tmt..
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:14
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DrSubhankar Mukherjee
Agreed with the house
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:15
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Jayafar Kanarath
Pls operate
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:20
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Akhilesh Vanam
Agree with the majority
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:42
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Bassem Ezzat
Short oblique fracture. No stable fracture. Go operative
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:50
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Ahmad Fayez
OperAtive
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:55
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Drmhreddy Moola
operative
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:58
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Naveen Chowdary Tummala
Why the doubt in the first place?
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:58
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Ghantod Kalyan
Fibula will hinder union, fibular osteotomy + İLN
23 de mayo a la(s) 4:59
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Santanu Mandal
Obviously,operate.
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:05
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Budha Prakash
ILN
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:06
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Kulvinder Gill
Il plus fibular osteotomy. Is marrow enough for smallest dia nail?
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:12
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Santosh Singh
Fib ot and ilnail
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:13
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Surender Reddy Pendyala
Do ILN
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:16
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Neeraj Choudhary
How many of the group always do fibular osteotomy in isolated tibia fractures?
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:16
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Gajendra Kumar Sharma
conservative
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:28
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Widiyatmiko Arifin Putro
Orif p/s
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:36
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Amrut Vanechand Oswal
Operate
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:38
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Mahmoud Abu Aita
isolated tibial fracture .. risk of non union .. need medullary nailing
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:43
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Dr-Alaa Hasheesh
ILN
23 de mayo a la(s) 5:57
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Sameh Gamil Alshaar
conserve
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:07
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Modi Neerav
nailing and fibular osteotomy
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:14
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DrBahaa Yahya
Imn or LCP
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:19
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Vivian Roshan D Almeida
Imil
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:26
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Mohamed Wahed
nail
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:30
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Rahul Mhatre
IKN With fibular osteotomy if possible
23 de mayo a la(s) 6:44
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Mohamed Rafat
Interlocking IM nail,,,early range of motion ankle and knee ,,partial weight bearing ,,to preserve muscle power ,,joints mobility ,,,and enhance fracture healing
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:08
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Bhavin Patel
simply do CR IM nailing proximally only dynamic IL and distally regular 2 IL no conservative Rx at all, No fibulotomy required at all
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:11
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Mohit Gupta
Conserve
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:26
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Mohit Gupta
More than 90 % contact on ap and lat. ptb after 4 weeks
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:27
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Mohamed Attia Abdou
oblique fracture ,sliding , shearing force Must do internal fixation
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:31
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Aldrich Fernandez
Close IM nailing
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:52
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Vinay H Siddappa
Interlocking nail with only dynamic lock. Weight bearing as tolerated. Watch for 6 weeks, union delay? Segmental fibulectomy.
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:53
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Operate
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:53
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Raviprakash Gupta
Operate
23 de mayo a la(s) 7:54
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Kurian Alappatt
Conserve
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:12
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Neeraj Malhotra
nail daal ke chalta karo boss
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:14
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Ram S. Suryawanshi
Must operate. Isolated tibia. Will loose reduction in cast eventually. Do only dynamic locking proximally. Wt bearing as tolerated. Good luck!
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:15
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Drmahesh Dama
im nailing with dynamic locking and fibular osteotomy
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:25
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Kalyan Kaushik
Pls explain in which conditions fibula osteotomy required? ?
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:46
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Ram S. Suryawanshi
Fibular osteotomy is indicated if there is nonunion. Give the fracture a chance to heal itself. Why disturb a normal innocent bone. Only nailing will suffice Ingrid case, I think.
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:50
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Drgaurav Gupta
Nailing... early physio
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:50
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Dhiren Singh
We have max crowd when Sarmiento speaks but least followers to propagate his ideas... Charge same as you charge fr nailing it can be managed by ptb at 4weeks
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:52
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Nageswara Rao Vutharkar
Nail it.
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:53
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Kalyan Kaushik
So, in this case I ll do only IL nail & fallow up if there is non union then I ll plan for fibula osteotomy. Thank you
Ram S. Suryawanshi
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:54
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Lokesh Bhatia
Ask yourself, have you operated in the past all cases having Isolated tibia #, If your answer is No treat conservatively, If answer is Yes, go ahead, but then if you operate then do fibular osteotomy as well, with proper Pt's Consent.If I were you, I'll explain Pros and Cons of both conservative and Operative, and let pt choose and document it in pt's records that pt choose so and so treatment. I mean both options here are valid. If pt wants early wt bearing doesn't wants to stay long 4-6 weeks NWB in A/k Cast ,then change to PTB cast. Then go ahead with operative treatment as mentioned earlier. Nailing / Plating I leave up to your choices and expertise. As per my choice I prefer to Nail all Diaphyseal #.
23 de mayo a la(s) 8:54
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Sanjaykumar Pal
IM Nailing with fibular osteotomy
23 de mayo a la(s) 9:40
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Freddy F Galvis Gomez
Cinservative wuth !Sarmientos Funtional-cast-
23 de mayo a la(s) 9:42
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Sabah Chenow
Operative,imn
23 de mayo a la(s) 10:22
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Vimal Kumar
reamed intramedullary nailing
23 de mayo a la(s) 10:24
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Drj Manjunath
No doubt operate ...imil nail with fibular oteotomy..
23 de mayo a la(s) 10:42
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Freddy F Galvis Gomez
fibular us intanct i insist un ealy weith with Sarmientos Funcional-cast system,
23 de mayo a la(s) 10:54
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Hafizur Rahman
ORIF Tibia, Divide and over lap fibula
23 de mayo a la(s) 11:36
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Shrikant Dalal
Must fix
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:08
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Manjeet Singh
ILN with dynamic locking n early wt. bearing
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:10
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Shrikrishna Dhone
play safe break fibula..ILN
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:26
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Emil R. Rofaeil
interlocking nail tibia sure
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:32
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Vijay Kumar S N
Intelocking with dynamic locking
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:51
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Mah Di Ormu
both op or non op u can
23 de mayo a la(s) 12:58
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Utkarsh Shahi
IMIL tibia with intact fibula. Early weight bearing
23 de mayo a la(s) 13:23
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Bibek Rai
Operate as fibula is intact so chances of nonunion is high.
23 de mayo a la(s) 14:33
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Freddy F Galvis Gomez
if fibular osteotomy practic neeed imn if not sarmientos castand full weitgh.
23 de mayo a la(s) 14:35
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Needhirajan Thenmozhi
Sarmiento plaster and weight bear early. Remember not all these go for non union. I have seen patient losing leg because of infection secondary to unnecessary nailing. If non union happens deal with that later.
23 de mayo a la(s) 14:51
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Freddy F Galvis Gomez
ideM IMPRESION.
23 de mayo a la(s) 14:52
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Tabu Muri
Consevative
23 de mayo a la(s) 19:30
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Praganesh KV
Those who want to go for conservative in this fracture are either in a very busy government setup or saying because of academic guidelines or are working at a place where c-arm facility not present.. i dont think any surgeon working in efficient setup will advice conservative treatment.. i am talking about competition.. if u wont someone else will do it. Pt windoshop for treatment now a days. Moreover plaster treatment in such cases prolongs the treatment and results in loss of livelihood. And if nonunion occurs then the life of patient is miserable.. the surgeon might lose one patient. Pardon my business minded philosophy..
23 de mayo a la(s) 20:30
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Siddu Patil
operate with inter lockingnail +osteotomy of fibulla
23 de mayo a la(s) 21:10
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Arjun Dumre
IMIL nail and fibular osteotomy for early joint mobilization.
23 de mayo a la(s) 22:05
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Mukesh Gupta Gupta
dr pragnesh you think treament depends on thesetup not your indication and requirment of patient,just selling things in a mall
24 de mayo a la(s) 0:03
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Yadagiri Aerpula
ILN Tibia
24 de mayo a la(s) 0:53
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Praganesh KV
@mukesh gupta sir, i wish i could also treat patient in classical ways but out own colleagues have made treatment a business..
24 de mayo a la(s) 1:32
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Eleti Amruth Ram Reddy
This might be the result if treated conservatively....this pt treated elsewhere Conservatively came to me....sorry for bad quality photograph
24 de mayo a la(s) 3:47
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Sayed Farooq Jalal
Fib is intact, tibia will not unit better to go for ILN
24 de mayo a la(s) 8:30
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Maajid Shabeer
Conserve with regular followups..It should unite..
24 de mayo a la(s) 10:15
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Mukesh Gupta Gupta
dr eleti amruth their are thousends of case of interlocking nails also gives such a bed x ray ,and infection
24 de mayo a la(s) 22:46
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Needhirajan Thenmozhi
85% of them unite. Go for conservative.
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Santosh Singh
I have not seen any of them united in my practice
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Mohit Gupta
Give ptb it will unite
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Santosh Mahapatra
If the patient can efford 3 month of cast including PTB then go for conservative otherwise ILN...
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